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The Pope is Dead
By Reza, Section Dead at 54 Posted on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 03:12:07 AM GMT

The pope is dead. If you hadn't seen a tv, newspaper or internet-connected computer or hadn't listened to a radio in about 4 days, this would be news. To those of you alive and connected, you already knew this. I'm not giving you a link to any story...find it yourself. Most news sites has 10 stories about him at the top of the queue.

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The Pope is Dead | 18 comments (18 topical, 0 hidden)

One word of advice for the next pope... (none / 0) (#3)
by Bold Marauder on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 07:59:02 PM GMT

IDDQD

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A sad thing, but was to be expected (5.00 / 1) (#2)
by xxxxxxxxxx on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 06:20:54 PM GMT

Parkinsons is a rough disease and he fought a good battle for a long while against it. I feel he is in a much better place now......no pain and no suffering.

Who do you think will be the next Pope???

I liked this one, he always looked like a kind and gentle man to me. He was certainly loved by the people, not all were Catholic either. I think he had a lot of appeal.

You are right about their being dozens of feed with this story, not one 'doesn't' have a picture and a story about it.

It will be quite some time (none / 0) (#4)
by Beef on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 06:04:48 AM GMT

before we see a Pontiff of his like again.

You think he'll be beatified?

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I am interested....... (none / 0) (#5)
by xxxxxxxxxx on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 03:08:21 PM GMT

to see who is chosen to be Pope this time. There is a chance it could be the man from Nigeria, who is African and that would be cool I think. Also the one guy who is the youngest of all the Cardinals that has a possible chance, I think he is from Guatemala, but I might be wrong on that one, I do know he is Hispanic.

I think it is time for a change and we need someone who is in touch with the people as well as the Vatican and can reach out to modern ideas without totally throwing them out because they are too liberal for the church.

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Current TradeSports odds (none / 0) (#7)
by Beef on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 07:26:07 PM GMT

This is a futures market. Correct predictions pay off at 100 per share.

PAPACY.ITALY    39.8
The Next Pope of the Roman Catholic Church to be from Italy
PAPACY.HONDURAS    12.2
The Next Pope of the Roman Catholic Church to be from Honduras
PAPACY.NIGERIA    11.7
The Next Pope of the Roman Catholic Church to be from Nigeria
PAPACY.FRANCE    3.3
The Next Pope of the Roman Catholic Church to be from France
PAPACY.BRAZIL    9.3
The Next Pope of the Roman Catholic Church to be from Brazil
PAPACY.GERMANY    6.3
The Next Pope of the Roman Catholic Church to be from Germany
PAPACY.CUBA    1.7
The Next Pope of the Roman Catholic Church to be from Cuba
PAPACY.UK    0.7
The Next Pope of the Roman Catholic Church to be from the United Kingdom
PAPACY.ARGENTINA    4.1
The Next Pope of the Roman Catholic Church to be from Argentina
PAPACY.COLUMBIA    2.6
The Next Pope of the Roman Catholic Church to be from Columbia
PAPACY.AUSTRALIA    0.4
The Next Pope of the Roman Catholic Church to be from Australia
PAPACY.BELGIUM    1.6
The Next Pope of the Roman Catholic Church to be from Belgium
PAPACY.INDIA    1.4
The Next Pope of the Roman Catholic Church to be from India
PAPACY.USA    0.8
The Next Pope of the Roman Catholic Church to be from the USA
PAPACY.AUSTRIA    1.5
The Next Pope of the Roman Catholic Church to be from the Austria
PAPACY.FIELD    7.4
The Next Pope of the Roman Catholic Church to be from Any Other Country not listed

PAPACY.TETTAMANZI    23
Dionigi Tettamanzi (Italy) to succeed Pope John Paul II
PAPACY.ARINZE    10
Francis Arinze (Nigeria) to succeed Pope John Paul II
PAPACY.R-MARADIAGA    11.3
Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga(Honduras) to succeed Pope John Paul II
PAPACY.HUMMES    10.5
Claudio Hummes(BRA) to succeed Pope John Paul II
PAPACY.RATZINGER    7
Joseph Ratzinger (Germany) to succeed Pope John Paul II
PAPACY.BATTISTA-RE    3
Giovanni Battista Re(Italy) to succeed Pope John Paul II
PAPACY.LUSTIGER    2.5
Jean-Marie Lustiger (France) to succeed Pope John Paul II
PAPACY.BERGOGLIO    3.5
Jorge Mario Bergoglio(Argentina) to succeed Pope John Paul II
PAPACY.CAST-HOYOS    2
Dario Castrillion Hoyos (Colombia) to succeed Pope John Paul II
PAPACY.DANEELS    1
Godfried Daneels (Belgium) to succeed Pope John Paul II
PAPACY.Y-ALAMINO    1
Jaime Lucas Ortega y Alamino(Cuba) to succeed Pope John Paul II
PAPACY.VON-SCHOENBRN    2.5
Count Christoph von Schoenborn(Austria) to succeed Pope John Paul II
PAPACY.SODANO    2
Angelo Sodano (Italy) to succeed Pope John Paul II
PAPACY.ANTONELLI    0.8
Ennio Antonelli(Italy) to succeed Pope John Paul II
PAPACY.SEPE    1
Crescenzio Sepe (Italy) to succeed Pope John Paul II
PAPACY.BIFFI    0.8
Giacomo Biffi(Italy) to succeed Pope John Paul II
PAPACY.CIPRIANI    0.8
Juan Luis Cipriani(Italy) to succeed Pope John Paul II
PAPACY.FIELD    10.1
Field(all others) to succeed Pope John Paul II

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John Paul II (none / 0) (#6)
by Beef on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 07:06:43 PM GMT

stacked the college with about 40 new Cardinals. The next Pope will almost certainly be a conservative.

I think one issue at hand will be whether the Church wants to focus on Third World evangelism or secular European evangelism. If they are looking to the Third World, Arinze (the Nigerian) would be a logical choice, and there are a few more conservative Papabili in Latin America as well (not that Latin America really needs a whole lot of Catholic evagelism).

Ratzinger would be the logical choice for a more European focus.

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Stacked the college? (5.00 / 1) (#9)
by Reza on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 09:20:56 PM GMT

ALl but THREE who can vote were put in position by JPII...and a total of 117 can vote.

And, if you think back (or Google back), Cardinal Wojtyla was not on the "Top 10" list of any betting parlor or newsman. Anyone that goes behind those locked doors, could come out with the white robes. Betting on this game is almost a sure loss.

Just my 2c.

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Whoa. (none / 0) (#10)
by Beef on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 09:33:54 PM GMT

that many?

Not surprising, I suppose, since he had been Pontiff for 26 years, and few Cardinals have that kind of life expectancy. I wouldn't expect that many to be left from Paul VI.

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Don't forget (none / 0) (#16)
by Vladinator on Thu Apr 07, 2005 at 08:43:23 AM GMT

JPII was the third longest reigning Pope in the history of the Papecy. As such, it shouldn't be much of a suprise that he appointed that many Cardinals. Don't be suprised if the next Pope is not ultra conservative.

"It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it. - G.W. Bush"
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then.......... (none / 0) (#18)
by xxxxxxxxxx on Thu Apr 07, 2005 at 09:32:01 AM GMT

Father Guido Sarducci does have a chance to be POPE?

Seriously, I hope the new Pope is more liberal, it would make things better for the church as a whole I think.

JP2 was a likeable sort and I am sorry he was so ill and passed as he did. Still, we all have to go sometime........and he was not young so I guess it is time to pass on the hat and go from there.

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incidentally (none / 0) (#17)
by Beef on Thu Apr 07, 2005 at 08:52:02 AM GMT

What I meant by the "40 new cardinals" is that I thought JPII expanded the college from 80 to 120. Or something like that. Not that he only appointed 40 cardinals.

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The Pope isn't really dead. (none / 0) (#1)
by Beef on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 08:09:00 AM GMT

But he must let the world think that he is dead, until he can find a way to control the raging spirit that dwells within him.

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Much to my surprise...it turns out you're right (none / 0) (#11)
by Bold Marauder on Wed Apr 06, 2005 at 07:08:02 AM GMT

The pope is alive and well and hails from milwaulkee.

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Meh. (none / 0) (#15)
by Beef on Thu Apr 07, 2005 at 07:42:26 AM GMT

This is not the first time that an Internet kook has claimed to be the one, true Apostolic successor.

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is this for real??? (none / 0) (#12)
by xxxxxxxxxx on Wed Apr 06, 2005 at 09:30:09 AM GMT

if so, I am confused as to how that happened without anybody knowing about it!

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It's for real, (5.00 / 1) (#13)
by Bold Marauder on Wed Apr 06, 2005 at 02:32:15 PM GMT

in the eyes of the "true" Catholic Church...which, from what I can gather, consists of Pope Bubba I and a few people somewhere in the mid-west who all reject Vatican II.

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tCC (5.00 / 1) (#14)
by Reza on Wed Apr 06, 2005 at 06:48:19 PM GMT

Apparently, the "tCC" is based on the thought that anything resulting from and anyone that was affiliated with Vatican II and "Novus Ordo" caused the Church to become heretical and they are now the "REAL" church They basically don't accept any of the changes that have happened in the last 50 years.

In one sense, it's interesting reading in that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. In another, it's kinda scary because most people don't know the "details" of what resulted from Vatican II and "Novus Ordo" and only generally know what the Church actually teaches. What these tCC people believe and preach is close enough to what is RCC (because it was the way it was 50 years ago) that it has the possibility of confusing people.

The big thing that goes against them is that *their* pope is basically in hiding as they won't disclose his location...and that when they *elected* him in the conclave of 1998, they don't indicate how many electors they had...(for all we know it was *1*).

<walks away shaking head>

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Well, I was close.... (none / 0) (#8)
by Beef on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 08:21:47 PM GMT

Apparently he is a superhero now.

I think the Columbian guy drawing this is sampling a bit too much from the national product.

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