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By Vladinator from the Scott department, Section Opinion & Editorials Posted on Sat Jul 31, 2004 at 10:46:27 AM GMT

Everyone should check out electorial-vote.com, and should ensure that their freinds who don't feel like voting get off thier asses and do so anyway, esp. in the states marked in red.

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by l33t j03 on Mon Aug 02, 2004 at 03:54:32 PM GMT

I absolutely love this time of year. Everyone gets fired up and politically involved and starts forming an opinion based on what the morning news told them was how they should interpret something one of the candidates said or did.

People start saying crazy entertaining things like if Bush wins pure sulfuric acid will rain down from the skies or a vote for Kerry means you want to give terrorists free reign to rape your pre-teen daughters. Americans don't usually show this kind of energy. They just sit in their homes and watch CSI and eat and be boring. The news outlets don't have enough news so they try to convince us all to care about some made up issue they faked and in depth report about. West Nile Carrying Mosquitos: Multitudinous and Voracious and Ready to Kill You.....coming up next

But around election time people start paying attention. People I work with honestly did not know that the military focused on recruiting poor kids until Michael Moore's movie showed them evidence of it in his fake-hometown of Flint. They also didn't know that you could get a Purple Heart for virtually any inury sustained in a combat zone, or that every GW Bush speech is essentially the same 10 phrases jumbled in a different order.

Yes, election time is great for me. It doesn't last long enough to teach people to actually think critically about anything, but it does provide some good entertainment.

Reagan thought it all up one night while drinking Bourbon with Satan.

Just curious... (5.00 / 1) (#18)
by NerdGirl on Tue Aug 03, 2004 at 06:20:02 AM GMT

What did Kerry get those 3 purple hearts for?

My pet notion is that he sprained an ankle, broke a toe, then got shot in the buttocks (friendly fire?).

Who's dead now?
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blank (none / 0) (#22)
by l33t j03 on Thu Aug 05, 2004 at 08:50:05 AM GMT

The circumstances for each one of them depend on who you talk to. For instance, some of his crew say the first one came from or during enemy fire, other crew and his commander say there was no enemy fire, etc.

What isn't disputed is that none of them took him off duty, or were anything other than minor wounds.

In the end it seems like a funny thing to argue. The other guy didn't even go to Vietnam and the few vets I know will tell you the Purple Hearts flowed like water to pretty much any officer who wanted them. Of course, the other guy also isn't a liberalist jackass, but that is beside this particular point.

Reagan thought it all up one night while drinking Bourbon with Satan.
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In my mind (none / 0) (#23)
by Beef on Thu Aug 05, 2004 at 11:46:07 AM GMT

the Kerry SwiftBoat thing and the Bush AWOL thing cancel each other out.

Next issue, please...

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You're at least close (5.00 / 1) (#20)
by PowerSpork 5000 on Tue Aug 03, 2004 at 09:49:32 AM GMT

I know that two of those Purple Hearts were a result of self-inflicted injuries.

The majority of Purple Hearts won is because he's a clumsy oaf.

Sen. Kerry: YOU FAIL IT!

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'self inflicted'? (none / 0) (#24)
by xxxxxxxxxx on Thu Aug 05, 2004 at 11:50:38 AM GMT

Ummm, how do you know this??? Certainly you don't believe everything you read on the internet?

Kerry may have gotten purple hearts for being clumsy or for being a bad luck schlep rock, but I just don't see him doing that intentionally.

What bothers me about elections is that each side digs up as much bullshit as they possibly can to dish out on the other candidate. Been that way for a good while and its nauseating. So much of it is trumped up and blown out of proportion.

My husband is a Viet-Nam vet and he is for Kerry and thinks he will, in the long run, be better for our country than Bush has been. I agree.

My major consideration here is that John Edwards is the running mate and certainly has more character and life experience than Dick has!! Being brought up poor has taught him a thing or two that being brought up in an influential family would not. I also like his wife, she is a normal, on the heavy side lady who is a Mother, a cool woman and isn't all about money and who makes the best designer clothes. (( I still am having a hard time forgetting about Nancy Reagan spending $10,000 per toilet for the White House during her and Ronnie's tenure. (Remember, there are at least 20 bathrooms in there) That is just way too pretentious in my way of thinking!)) Damn, you can go to Home Depot and get a whole toilet for less than $300. and they are NICE!

Lets be frank here, its a place to shit, not a place to entertain guests and high officials. Nobody cares when they gotta go if its a $10K or a $100. toilet. Pretty much all your worried about is if its clean and if somebody remembered toilet paper!!

I want someone who isn't a 'good ole boy' in the White House, who doesn't kiss ass to every money making representative there is. The Bush family has long been a kiss ass family and I for one am not so sure they are so damn honest either.

I am not saying that anyone is wrong or stupid for their opinions on who they want to win the election, I am just saying that for my vote, its Kerry/Edwards. There are tons of stuff on both sides to make you wonder, they are politicians and lawyers so you can't expect perfection from any of them. And lets face it, Honesty is not one of their strong suits either!

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Liz Edwards (none / 0) (#25)
by Beef on Thu Aug 05, 2004 at 12:03:58 PM GMT

I also like his wife, she is a normal, on the heavy side lady who is a Mother, a cool woman and isn't all about money and who makes the best designer clothes.

I also really like Elizabeth Edwards (although the whole shooting-yourself-up-with-hormones-so-you-can-have-a-baby-at-age-52 thing is kinda creepy, and damned irresponsible, IMHO). But the wife of the running-mate makes very little difference to me. Otherwise, I would never have voted for Clinton (that censorous biatch shouldn't be allowed within 2 miles of the White House).

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the hormone thing is a bit risky (none / 0) (#26)
by xxxxxxxxxx on Thu Aug 05, 2004 at 03:18:50 PM GMT

but I guess that depends on whether you are very healthy and how much you want kids. Evidently want outwieghed the risk factor. I can understand that, very much so.

I am 47 with a 11 year old, didn't have her until I was 36. To be honest, I was always told I would never have children, then surprise, surprise! 36 is not old, neither is 47 really, but it is for having a first child. But I would have risked a lot of things to have a child, still would if that were possible.

As for Hillary Clinton, yes, she is a Bitch, but at times I like her for here openess and her boldness. It is tough being a woman in politics and you have to have thick skin and be fearless in many ways. Women are still dealing with the 'Good ole Boys Club' when it comes to politics. Hopefully I will see that change in my lifetime. :-) I can hope anyway.

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36 certainly isn't old (none / 0) (#28)
by BringBackATV on Wed Aug 11, 2004 at 11:43:07 AM GMT

That was my mother's age when I popped out :)
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Bless her, (none / 0) (#30)
by xxxxxxxxxx on Wed Aug 11, 2004 at 11:44:29 PM GMT

you are ready for children at that age and enjoy them so much. I bet your Mum was very glad to have you!!

I do not know what I would do without my daughter as she has been the best thing I have ever had happen in my life.

I really love being a Mom!

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I can understand the desire to have children (none / 0) (#27)
by Beef on Thu Aug 05, 2004 at 05:20:49 PM GMT

But by that age, the chances of chromosomal problems are so great, it just becomes selfish. There's a big difference between 36 and 52.

Actually, I wasn't referring to Hillary. I was referring to Tipper (wife of Clinton's running-mate). Can't stand that woman.

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Tipper Gore (none / 0) (#29)
by Vladinator on Wed Aug 11, 2004 at 09:35:29 PM GMT

Not being 1st lady is the ONLY good thing about the BUSH presidency.

"It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it. - G.W. Bush"
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Badnarik 2004!!! (5.00 / 2) (#8)
by Beef on Sat Jul 31, 2004 at 09:50:03 PM GMT

I'm voting Badnarik. All freedom-loving conservatives and moderates should do the same.

I think Bush is bad for conservatives (well, not Bush per se, but Cheney, Ashcroft, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz). Let Kerry sit in the chair for four years and get Americans nice and re-aquainted with leftist politics. Then we can elect a real conservative in 2008.

I'm not going to cry if Bush is re-elected. And I'm not going to cry if Kerry is elected. But my vote for Badnarik sends the following message to Bush:

YOU FAIL IT!

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Be conservative in what you do. Be liberal in what you accept from others.

Agree (5.00 / 1) (#9)
by Strom Thurmond on Sun Aug 01, 2004 at 06:03:16 AM GMT

I'll also probably vote for Badnarik.

The agenda Bush has pursued thus far is far from conservative. No reason to think it will be any different in a second term.

Also, it won't make any difference because Bush will win my state in a cakewalk.

I'm a very pretty pony!

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POWER OVERWHELMING! (5.00 / 1) (#10)
by Beef on Sun Aug 01, 2004 at 10:09:36 AM GMT

I live in Wisconsin. My single vote could cost Bush the state.

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Sigh. Another left-wing freak. (5.00 / 1) (#7)
by Beef on Sat Jul 31, 2004 at 09:45:17 PM GMT

One look at his links tells me everything I need to know about him. TN leaning Kerry? F-ing Al Gore (less Liberal than Kerry, more charisma, and FROM THE FREAKIN STATE) couldn't win there. Any poll that has Kerry ahead there should be thrown out on general principle.

NM Strong Kerry?
MO Leaning Kerry?

Of course, he also has NJ barely Kerry, and there's no way in hell he could lose that state.

Here's a real summary of polls: http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/GENERAL/CAMPAIGN/2004/polls.php

(BTW, I participate in the forum)

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Be conservative in what you do. Be liberal in what you accept from others.

Cool stuff. (5.00 / 2) (#6)
by vegetablespork on Sat Jul 31, 2004 at 08:38:14 PM GMT

Confirms Missouri (no "show me" jokes, please) is a "battleground state." I figure that my fellow Missourians will turn out to vote against Ashcroft, just like they did in 2000 :).

Four more years! (3.66 / 3) (#4)
by Strom Thurmond on Sat Jul 31, 2004 at 02:42:37 PM GMT

Four more years!

I'm a very pretty pony!

Until I clicked the link . . . (5.00 / 2) (#5)
by vegetablespork on Sat Jul 31, 2004 at 08:33:25 PM GMT

. . . I thought it meant four more years for you. As far as I know, the dead can only vote, not stand for office.

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They can only vote if they move to (5.00 / 2) (#13)
by Beef on Sun Aug 01, 2004 at 08:30:53 PM GMT

Chicago.

HTH.

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If they move to UKia... (5.00 / 1) (#15)
by BringBackATV on Mon Aug 02, 2004 at 11:26:55 AM GMT

..they're eligible for the House of Lords!
-- No thanks, I would not like sugar with my cornflakes
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Cook County (5.00 / 1) (#14)
by Vladinator on Sun Aug 01, 2004 at 08:54:36 PM GMT

Really, it's the whole county...

"It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it. - G.W. Bush"
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Ha! (5.00 / 1) (#3)
by xxxxxxxxxx on Sat Jul 31, 2004 at 02:24:38 PM GMT

Virginia is almost equally split and moving towards Kerry every day! This makes me very happy considering that Va. was a strong Bush state in the beginning.

I am voting for Kerry more because of John Edwards. He is a really who I wanted to run for President on the Dem. ticket but Kerry got it. At least Kerry had the good sense to choose Edwards as his running mate, I think that has made his campaign a lot stronger. :-)

My philosophy is "if you don't vote, you don't get to complain"! Get out there and make a difference!

"no vote, no complaining"... (5.00 / 2) (#11)
by NerdGirl on Sun Aug 01, 2004 at 08:16:49 PM GMT

I understand this "if you don't vote, you don't get to complain" philosophy.

However, I would argue that it might be more responsible not to vote in a race where one doesn't know anything about the candidates, issues, etc. This tends to apply more to state and local campaigns than national ones, of course. You shouldn't cancel out a well-meaning person's vote with your uninformed one, and you may wind up voting a person into office who turns out to be utterly counter to you in your stance on the issues. Just my $0.02.

Can I complain if I don't like my choices?

Who's dead now?
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But, (5.00 / 1) (#12)
by Vladinator on Sun Aug 01, 2004 at 08:21:27 PM GMT

Is there an excuse for not being informed? The info is out there, if you care to read it.

"It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it. - G.W. Bush"
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if the information was there... (5.00 / 1) (#17)
by NerdGirl on Tue Aug 03, 2004 at 06:12:24 AM GMT

unfortunately, when was the last time you saw information on who was running for clerk of deeds? Do the candidates have websites, even if you find out that they're running beforehand?

Who's dead now?
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Yes. (5.00 / 1) (#21)
by Vladinator on Tue Aug 03, 2004 at 06:03:39 PM GMT

Most of the time, the information is available on the web. As a deputy voter registrar, and an election judge (who is considering running for precinct commitimam this year), I can tell you for certain that you DO have information available, even if you have to dig for it.

The truth is out there...

"It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it. - G.W. Bush"
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*whew* (5.00 / 1) (#1)
by Bold Marauder on Sat Jul 31, 2004 at 11:09:11 AM GMT

I was afraid for a minute that I'd have to worry about it, but I live in Az.

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Heh (none / 0) (#2)
by Vladinator on Sat Jul 31, 2004 at 11:13:53 AM GMT

How many McCain-ites do you think will break ranks and vote for Kerry?

"It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it. - G.W. Bush"
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Why does everyone think McCain is (5.00 / 1) (#19)
by Beef on Tue Aug 03, 2004 at 08:00:30 AM GMT

some radical mavarick Democrat-in-Republican's-clothes? He supports the war in Iraq 100%, is pro-Life, and well on the right-wing side on most issues. Bush is WAY closer to McCain politically than Kerry is.

People are dumb.

VoteMatch - John McCain

VoteMatch - George W Bush

VoteMatch - John Kerry

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